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Josh · Feb 06, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

What motherboard do you have? Are you sure you have "two" Quad-Core processors (meaning 8-cores, octo?).. Not just 1 Quad Core?

I don't know many motherboards that support multi-Intel C2Q processors...

Numa Pompilius · Feb 06, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Wait a second - XP home doesn't support more than one CPU, so how are you running it with two quadcore CPU's?

Musei Karasu · Feb 06, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Wait a second - XP home doesn't support more than one CPU, so how are you running it with two quadcore CPU's?

XP home will support dual as I seem to recall, dunno about anything larger though. I run a pair of quadcores but I have yet to have any issues with it in GW or any other game for that matter.

oh and I Dont Do Coke, I'll pair my two quad cores against any single core CPU you'd like. If two heads are better than one, what are the odds of one head being better than eight, even if that one head is Dr. Hawkings. I've done extensive research on it. Granted I haven't got a clue what awmiscool is doing because I had my motherboard personally built for me.

awmiscool · Feb 06, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

okay.. seeing this is still up and running. I have two intel xeon quad cores. Not the 2x 4mb l2 cache. the guy asked what CPU i was using, and i gave that to him.

heres my screenie of my pc cpu specs..

trust me, ive spent months deciding to get dual quads over a singe quad and dual 8800's.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/382/desktopxz0.jpg

oh crap lol ignore the ppls xfires lol

Narada · Feb 06, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by awmiscool

heres my screenie of my pc cpu specs..
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/382/desktopxz0.jpg

That sir, is quite awesome.

I Dont Do Coke · Feb 06, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Blah blah blah blah. This is why I got a C2D E6850 over a C2Q Q6600. Q6600 can throw a better punch, but today's software isn't designed for four cores.

@23: you probably missed my point, but it's possible for a processor with only one core to do more FLOPS than one with multiple cores.

Aera · Feb 06, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

So, any chance of support for C2Q or C2D coming? It'd be nice...

Tachyon · Feb 06, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by awmiscool

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/382/desktopxz0.jpg

You have the same wallpaper as me, although mine's superior as it has "Tacgnol" in it.

Quaker · Feb 07, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by gremlin

I am running GW on a quad core and it's fine, I believe the "quad core lockup problem" is a myth.

No, it's not a myth. It just doesn't happen to everyone, and just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to anyone. That's like saying "I've never had cancer - cancer is a myth."

It's probably a combination of many factors including the motherboard chipset, the video card (& drivers), the sound "card" (& drivers), the buss speed, RAM size/speed, etc., etc., etc. But it does happen, and using a utility like ForceCore to make GW run in only one core does cure it.... most of the time.

It worked for me. After several months of upgrading hardware and software and reinstalling and tweaking, ForceCore did the trick. Recently, I've been using TexMod to do the Cartography titles. When I run Texmod, GW doesn't use ForceCore - maybe I could set it up to do that, but I don't - anyway, the occasional lock-up reminds me to use ForceCore when I'm not mapping.

gremlin · Feb 07, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Ok It seems the quad core problem isnt a myth, it just sounded an unlikely occurence.

It would be interesting to see if it happens more to people who have upgraded their machines to quads than to purpose built quad core machines.

I am running a vista sidebar gadget showing quad core activity during gameplay to see if gw is using all the cores or not.

So far activity seems to happen mainly on one core with less activity on the others.
Roughly this was shown as 13% 67% 39% 20%

Whether this is commonly how multicore processors work I don't really know im just curious.
I shall read up on multi cores and see if they devote single cores to each task or all the cores work together.

Love a good problem though.

hurdlebeast · Feb 07, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

XP home will support dual as I seem to recall, dunno about anything larger though. I run a pair of quadcores but I have yet to have any issues with it in GW or any other game for that matter.

oh and I Dont Do Coke, I'll pair my two quad cores against any single core CPU you'd like. If two heads are better than one, what are the odds of one head being better than eight, even if that one head is Dr. Hawkings. I've done extensive research on it. Granted I haven't got a clue what awmiscool is doing because I had my motherboard personally built for me.

http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pr...ease/21580.wss + overclocking.

and quad cores don't give you massive gains over dual core, neither do octo over quad:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127726/article.html

Numa Pompilius · Feb 07, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

No, XP Home does not support dual processors.

"For dual–processor computers, you'll need to purchase Windows XP Professional instead of Home Edition to enable the second processor to work."
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ovember26.mspx

If you're running Win XP home you're currently wasting one of your processors.

Tachyon · Feb 07, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

No, XP Home does not support dual processors.

"For dual–processor computers, you'll need to purchase Windows XP Professional instead of Home Edition to enable the second processor to work."
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ovember26.mspx

If you're running Win XP home you're currently wasting one of your processors.

Sorry, but thats crap! I'm currently typing this from a dual core system running XP Home and both cores work just fine!

Numa Pompilius · Feb 07, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

dualcore != dual cpu.

hurdlebeast · Feb 07, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

dual core is a single chip with two processors on the actual chip (two dies one chip)

Dual processor is two physical processor chips, each with it's own slot on the motherboard. they can both be dual core, or quad core, so two dual core processors on one mother board= four processor cores.(irrelevant point)

xp supports dual CORE processors, not dual PROCESSORS. hope this clears things up a bit.

Tachyon · Feb 07, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Don't bother, it's me having tired eyes after a bloody long day at work. I didn't read the above post correctly.

The Way Out · Feb 07, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

dualcore != dual cpu.

I don't want to flame you, but, you are wrong. Dual cores function as if you have two central processing units, however they are just one cpu with two cores.

lynnae · Feb 07, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

okay, dual cores (quad cores, whatever, multiple processors, one big piece of silicon) share lvl 2 cache but not lvl 1 yes?

The Way Out · Feb 07, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

No, they both have their own caches. dual core is literally two processors cast on the same dye. They both have their own cache controllers. However, saying that they are two cpus is incorrect in a technical sense. Very stupid, but still true.

Anyway, this doesn't matter... this thread has served it's purpose.

moriz · Feb 07, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

and the OP is using two physical processors (dual processors), each with four cores (quad cores). there's a pretty important difference there, since apparently, XP home cannot support two physical processors.